#26  10.07.2012 20:39:03

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Re: Slip vs Players

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#27  10.07.2012 20:43:19

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Re: Slip vs Players

Harmony написал:

However if you add the rule that Skunk stated here

It was added in rules list long time ago. Click on the link on top of the page and you'll see it.

Harmony написал:

Things will get more in depth and even the smallest thing can be seen as breaking a rule and you would get a ban.

You think too sophisticated. It's much easier. Player may receive a ban while admin can ban.
Our server is not user-centric, it's admin-centric by default.
Anyway, admins are very sane people. They closed their eyes on a little rules violations fregently.
But admins may accumulate many small pieces to 1 ban if player continues to violate rules.
Sometimes it happen.

Harmony написал:

The biggest problem is that players can't make decent jokes towards eachother or have a friendly chat with eachother. It is very frustrating that an admin can log in anytime and can ban players while they are talking to eachother ingame.

So stop stupid jokes. Use your oratory somewhere else, on facebook for example.
You came to CS server so play CS.

Harmony написал:

And then you get these random "i got banned please unban" topics on forums.

There will be "unbun" topics always. It was, it is and it will be. Cause it's user generated content.
10 years passed and nothing had change.


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#28  10.07.2012 20:55:31

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Re: Slip vs Players

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admins are very sane people. They closed their eyes on a little rules violations fregently.

not all admins i see........ like slip .... "shitgym" was nothing to ban ... seems like slip is to young to understand difference between foul language and normal spoken language.

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But admins may accumulate many small pieces to 1 ban if player continues to violate rules.

agree on this ....ziboo just say "shitgym" and it was joke and muscle must have laught on this (i dont know clear ) but i know that he is ok with this coz its normal friends chat and zibo was not saying this all the time .

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#29  10.07.2012 21:19:43

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Re: Slip vs Players

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The biggest problem is that players can't make decent jokes towards eachother or have a friendly chat with eachother

If that "chat" is violating server rules, you better "chat" that way on some other resource.


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#30  10.07.2012 21:57:22

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Re: Slip vs Players

i meaning so i will searching an other server and i will playing on there...and i wanna thanks for my all REAL FRIENDS that they stand up for me! we will playing after 4-8 weeks if my ban be due :) we cant talking with head of admins...thats the real life :) like a boss! :D

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#31  10.07.2012 22:14:26

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Re: Slip vs Players

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kallogay, kaye o gay

:lol: :lol: :lol:


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#32  10.07.2012 22:48:21

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Re: Slip vs Players

Skunk написал:

Harmony написал:

However if you add the rule that Skunk stated here

It was added in rules list long time ago. Click on the link on top of the page and you'll see it.

Do you really think i didn't read that rule serveral years ago? I think you misunderstood.

Skunk написал:

Harmony написал:

Things will get more in depth and even the smallest thing can be seen as breaking a rule and you would get a ban.

You think too sophisticated. It's much easier. Player may receive a ban while admin can ban.
Our server is not user-centric, it's admin-centric by default.
Anyway, admins are very sane people. They closed their eyes on a little rules violations fregently.
But admins may accumulate many small pieces to 1 ban if player continues to violate rules.
Sometimes it happen.

You just pointed out the very heart of the problem right here. Don't close your eyes, warn the player directly because that's when he knows that he is doing wrong. Common sense, no? :facepalm:

Skunk написал:

Harmony написал:

The biggest problem is that players can't make decent jokes towards eachother or have a friendly chat with eachother. It is very frustrating that an admin can log in anytime and can ban players while they are talking to eachother ingame.

So stop stupid jokes. Use your oratory somewhere else, on facebook for example.
You came to CS server so play CS.

What are you trying to say? Situations that occur in the server should be discussed later on facebook? I understand that some jokes are not tolerated but the chat in CS is made to CHAT during the game, it is but obvious that players talk or write about situations that occur during the game. If a bad joke has been made, the admin wouldn't lose all of his life energy by just warning the player directly.

Skunk написал:

Harmony написал:

And then you get these random "i got banned please unban" topics on forums.

There will be "unbun" topics always. It was, it is and it will be. Cause it's user generated content.
10 years passed and nothing had change.

more players -> more topics...


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In short instead of closing your eyes for that one time when a player violated the rules and banning the other time, try to warn the player directly in chat so that next time when he violates you can ban him. If this would ve been done a long time before there would have been a lot less discussions and cases like this one would of been avoided. Save yourself the trouble of just giving out chat warnings and you won't have to see topics like this day by day. It would also give the community a better idea of why they are banned.

2 birds with 1 stone, ;)


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#33  11.07.2012 00:15:17

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Re: Slip vs Players

this is so fascinatingly, but, real reason of 2 weeks ban was:

Спойлер:

L 07/08/2012 - 18:26:05: "IPT CS 1.6 High Latency<0><><>" triggered "amx_chat" (text "[SB] oO-z1Bo-Oo has been kicked for message: fuck")

if someone wanted to complain this, please, welcome

P.S. z1Bo has + 1 week, I think you know why


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#34  11.07.2012 00:43:39

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Re: Slip vs Players

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You just pointed out the very heart of the problem right here. Don't close your eyes, warn the player directly because that's when he knows that he is doing wrong. Common sense, no?

Look, I'll try to say same point in other words.

Admins go to server to play in CS.
Not to administrate as you think!
Their aim is not to raise, teach or instruct players. It's a parents' job.

Admins have the server and share it with other players.
Players who share admins' point of view on this game and this world.

So admins may warn players but not must.
Ban and few forum posts takes less time then warning ingame chat messages.
For example, you wrote about 85 person community.
Do you think admins want to warn each of them instead of play in CS? ;)

Harmony написал:

What are you trying to say? Situations that occur in the server should be discussed later on facebook?

No.

Harmony написал:

I understand that some jokes are not tolerated but

Yes. Without but.
Not tolarated jokes are forbidden. Point.

Harmony написал:

more players -> more topics...

It's OK. :cool:


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#35  11.07.2012 10:57:11

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Re: Slip vs Players

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snip

You didn't understand my point. I was trying to say is that if you would care even in the least about the community players in your server, would you atleast put the smallest effort in trying to warn them so that they would be prepared for a ban if they don't listen. I'm not telling you give out warnings for everything but for the smallest thing that would make you use the ban hammer if they do it for the second time.

Admins log only because they want to play CS, it's understandable, none of you is talkative really. However some players actually login to play together with their friends or just to chat while playing the game. It is when these players get banned for saying something to their friend that people get upset and topics like these and like the ones in the complaint section rise.

But then again, i've been repeating all of this for the past few posts i have made so just answer clearly this time; Instead of banning directly without warning sometimes, please try to warn the player before hands and you'll see how effective it is however if you don't care then it's your choice aswell.


PS: Kicking without reason won't do any good either :rolleyes:


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#36  11.07.2012 15:34:04

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Re: Slip vs Players

Harmony написал:

It would 've been alright if it wasn't that much different

try to always behave like if the most severe admin is online and be happy :P Actually, I ban sometimes even for "bot"

zibo666 написал:

thats the great idea! or say the admins to players: "dont speak foul or get KICK or ban" not first ban him....

you, guys, play sooo long at this server and you know how easily we ban, do you actually need any warning??? :blink:


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#37  11.07.2012 17:17:39

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Re: Slip vs Players

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this is so fascinatingly, but, real reason of 2 weeks ban was:
Spoiler:

L 07/08/2012 - 18:26:05: "IPT CS 1.6 High Latency<0><><>" triggered "amx_chat" (text "[SB] oO-z1Bo-Oo has been kicked for message: fuck")


if someone wanted to complain this, please, welcome

P.S. z1Bo has + 1 week, I think you know why

Did he really Use the F-word!! He says he hasnt used it!

and u say he has 1 week.. after that is he getting unban! ? if so,yes? i will wash his brain off! :yes:


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#38  11.07.2012 17:27:54

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Re: Slip vs Players

Mafia.. +1 week means he got 1 more week extra on his ban so basically that would make it 3 weeks. Atleast that's what i think  the slip i know would do.

Dr.Salvator написал:

you, guys, play sooo long at this server and you know how easily we ban, do you actually need any warning???

It's a situational warning so yes.


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#39  11.07.2012 17:32:08

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Re: Slip vs Players

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Mafia.. +1 week means he got 1 more week extra on his ban so basically that would make it 3 weeks.

Bro i guess Slip would really understand o-O-z1bo-O-o 's intention of playing the game after a long. Hope he would decrease the ban period to 1 week.

:( :(


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#40  11.07.2012 17:47:39

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Re: Slip vs Players

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Harmony написал:

Mafia.. +1 week means he got 1 more week extra on his ban so basically that would make it 3 weeks.

Bro i guess Slip would really understand o-O-z1bo-O-o 's intention of playing the game after a long. Hope he would decrease the ban period to 1 week.

:( :(

No, I think it's what he deserved if he knew the real reason why he was banned. If not then i think it's Slip's fault for not saying the real reason as soon as he saw this topic. Anyhow here is the link to his ban; http://www.cs.iptcom.net/#!cs_banlist?bid=106471 It clearly shows 3 weeks, i doubt Slip will change his mind. Sometimes it's better not to complain about the ban :rolleyes: .. Sometimes..

Отредактированно Harmony (11.07.2012 17:48:20)


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#41  11.07.2012 18:11:43

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Re: Slip vs Players

banning a player for using foul language is right.but in zibo's case it is not at all right.he said shitgym:D.have u ever heard this foul language??:shok:

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#42  11.07.2012 18:25:29

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Re: Slip vs Players

Slip! if i said the "bad word" , then post to me the hltv demo...c'mon!check it! :)

and this is the best song to this post :D:D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFuw-h9pbHc

one more time, and you receive ban on forum

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#43  11.07.2012 18:27:58

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Re: Slip vs Players

you mean you don't use "this" word?


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#44  11.07.2012 18:34:24

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do u heart ur head?:)

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#45  11.07.2012 18:40:12

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Re: Slip vs Players

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z1Bo, go on facebook and type there, if you had question to me - ask, no - go away


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#46  11.07.2012 18:42:47

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Re: Slip vs Players

ban me if u wanna exploding a civil war :) my friend and bro's will be to mutiny against u :) just try it:)  i dont scaring from u i dont scaring from nothing. i downloading an other cs version and comming back. i have on my pc 3 cs version now with other STEAM ID ;) and if u ban me without cause than i will point the video to the head admin :)

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#47  11.07.2012 18:46:53

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Re: Slip vs Players

add me on facebook slip Zibriczky Tamás    http://www.facebook.com/zibriczky.tamas

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#48  11.07.2012 19:16:21

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Re: Slip vs Players

Not really the right way to approach the judge :facepalm:


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#49  11.07.2012 19:21:52

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Re: Slip vs Players

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Not really the right way to approach the judge :facepalm:

:yes:  :laughing:

Отредактированно Sad-Flute (11.07.2012 19:22:45)

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#50  11.07.2012 22:19:55

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Re: Slip vs Players

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Not really the right way to approach the judge :facepalm:

LOL :laughing: :laughing: :lol: :lol::laughing: :no:


Sometimes expect the unexpected  :) :D :P

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